Mario Vasquez (MV): Thank you, Katja for doing this interview. For those
who are not familiar with you or work, tell me a little about your background. What led
you to become an artist?
Katja Seib
(KS): I grew up in Düsseldorf, which has always been a city inspired
by art. The famous Kunstakademie is
located there. From a young age I learnt about Joseph Beuys, Markus Lüpertz, Jörg Immendorff, Albert
Oehlen and many more artists. And I visited
the Kunstakademie’s yearly “Rundgang” (a week where the students of some of the
artists named above and many more classes of Art Professors show their works).
Going there and seeing art - especially paintings - felt right for me, and I
knew I would always want to study there one day and so I did.
MV: So out of the artists
you mentioned, which ones would you say have had the most influence on your
practice as a painter?
KS: I wouldn’t say any of
them were particularly influential, but rather the bigger picture of every
artist collectively. The spirit of the Kunstakademie and its world renowned
professors/artists captivated my desire to study there and pursue my dream.
MV: So, you received your
MFA at Fine Art Academy of Düsseldorf, and then you came to Los Angeles. What
attracted you to settle in LA as opposed to other scenes like Berlin, London or
New York?
KS: In respect to the other
locations, I found that Los Angeles hadn’t quite yet established itself so much
so in the art scene. As a young, thriving artist, I felt like I could become
more a part of it and have a little influence in comparison to NY which already
has such a settled scene like Chelsea. Proof of that movement here is Frieze LA,
which has attained great recognition in the last few years.
MV: It’s interesting that
you refer to New York as a “settled scene.” I refer to someplace like New York
as having “weight.” It’s a place that’s heavy. The weight of art history, the
market, and the expectations of the art in the city gives an artist a narrow
path for opportunities to grow from the outside in. Los Angeles does not have
that weight (yet). I fear though that it’s getting to that point. There’s a lot
more here in LA to expand as an artist within a community that I think is more
open.
Now let’s talk about your painting.
You were recently in the 20/21 Made in L.A. biennial. (I will talk to
you about the biennial later in this interview.) How do you formulate the
images within your paintings? Are there particular interests that help guide the
iconography within your work?
KS: I work from photos which
I take with my phone. It can be random or staged footage. I sometimes have a personal
connection to the people I paint, and sometimes not at all.
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Katja Seib
No Title
2020
Oil On Canvas
20.3 x 20.3 cm / 8 x 8 in
Credit: © Katja Seib, courtesy Sadie Coles HQ, London.
Photo: Elon Schoenholz |
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Katja Seib
No Title
2020
Oil On Canvas
20.3 x 20.3 cm / 8 x 8 in
Credit: © Katja Seib, courtesy Sadie Coles HQ, London.
Photo: Elon Schoenholz |
MV: So as you select and
mediate the photos, do you have the intention of forming any narratives
surrounding your paintings? Do you want the viewer to come away with anything
about the images?
KS: I do and I don’t. I
would say I do create a narrative, but I don’t like to dictate the context of
the whole story, and rather leave space for the viewers’ own feelings and
interpretation. I often have people come up to me and they proceed to tell me
their own interpretation, instead of asking me what the painting is about. That
is something I really appreciate and it makes me feel like I have succeeded in
achieving the general purpose of my works.
MV: Let’s expand and explore
the approach and interpretation of your paintings. Do you believe that an
artist should give up control over how her work is interpreted?
KS: Honestly that’s unavoidable, regardless of my
meaning behind it. What the viewer sees is totally something that connects to them.
As mentioned before, I appreciate their original insight into what they see.
Neither is it necessary for everyone to see the same without rhyme or reason. So I see it not as me surrendering control,
but rather allowing them to be part of it.
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Installation view, Katja Seib, No Title, 2020, Made in L.A 2020: a Version, The Huntingdon
Library, Art Museum and Botanical Gardens, San Marino CA, 17 April – 01 August 2021
Credit: © Katja Seib, courtesy Hammer Museum, Los Angeles/The Huntington Library, Los
Angeles, and Sadie Coles HQ, London.
Photo: Joshua White |
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Installation view, Katja Seib, No Title, 2020, Made in L.A 2020: a Version, The Huntingdon
Library, Art Museum and Botanical Gardens, San Marino CA, 17 April – 01 August 2021
Credit: © Katja Seib, courtesy Hammer Museum, Los Angeles/The Huntington Library, Los
Angeles, and Sadie Coles HQ, London.
Photo: Joshua White |
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Installation view, Katja Seib, No Title, 2020, Made in L.A 2020: a Version, The Huntingdon
Library, Art Museum and Botanical Gardens, San Marino CA, 17 April – 01 August 2021
Credit: © Katja Seib, courtesy Hammer Museum, Los Angeles/The Huntington Library, Los
Angeles, and Sadie Coles HQ, London.
Photo: Joshua White |
MV: Mike Kelley did the
exact same thing with the interpretation of his work. It’s almost a democratic
approach to looking at art. The insights of various people make art
interesting.
Now let’s talk about your work for Made
in L.A 2020. Your paintings took on different meanings and feelings based
on the locations. The work at the Huntington seemed to suggest an occult
approach. While the Hammer was very much about dreams and reality. I do see
overlap between both sites. Was your choice in paintings and works dependent on
either the Huntington Library or Hammer locations for the Made in L.A. biennial?
KS: The smaller paintings hold
a greater feeling of intimacy. Because of their size, they allow the viewer to
have this up-close experience, to grasp those subtle interactions between each
work, and I felt would be better at the Huntington Library. For the Hammer
Museum, which feels more in the eye of the public, I wanted to encourage a more
immersive dreamlike experience, suggesting fantasy and reality intertwined. The
bigger works are quite time consuming and give more room to manifest and create
these dreamlike experiences, whereas the small paintings don’t allow as much
room for imagination, but rather give the opportunity to suggest momentary ideas.
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Installation view, Katja Seib, Mona Lisa’s Smile, 2020; Bang bang (he shot me down), 2020,
Made in L.A 2020: a Version, Hammer Museum, Los Angeles, 17 April – 01 August 2021
Credit: © Katja Seib, courtesy Hammer Museum, Los Angeles/The Huntington Library, Los
Angeles, and Sadie Coles HQ, London.
Photo: Joshua White |
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Katja Seib
Mona Lisa’s Smile
2020
Oil On Canvas
180.3 x 160cm / 71 x 63 in
Credit: © Katja Seib, courtesy Sadie Coles HQ, London.
Photog: Elon Schoenholz |
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Katja Seib
Mona Lisa’s Smile [detail]
2020
Oil On Canvas
180.3 x 160cm / 71 x 63 in
Credit: © Katja Seib, courtesy Sadie Coles HQ, London.
Photo: Elon Schoenholz |
MV: Looking at the biennial
as a whole, how did you see your paintings relate to the other works in the
show? Or even how the biennial portrayed Los Angeles as a city, or site?
KS: I think the curators did
a good job in finding a balance between the amount of paintings and all the
other mediums presented by the other participating artists. I wasn’t aware of which works by the other
artists would be shown until the show opened, so I can’t say that my works are
related to those of the other artists, but I did like the end result of the
show as a whole.
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Katja Seib
Bang bang (he shot me down)
2020
Oil on two different canvas types
Overall: 203.2 x 254 cm / 80 x 100 in
Left: 203.2 x 152.4 cm / 80 x 60 in
Right: 203.2 x 101.6 cm / 80 x 40 in
Credit: © Katja Seib, courtesy Sadie Coles HQ, London.
Photo: Elon Schoenholz
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Katja Seib
Bang bang (he shot me down) [detail]
2020
Oil on two different canvas types
Overall: 203.2 x 254 cm / 80 x 100 in
Left: 203.2 x 152.4 cm / 80 x 60 in
Right: 203.2 x 101.6 cm / 80 x 40 in
Credit: © Katja Seib, courtesy Sadie Coles HQ, London.
Photo: Elon Schoenholz |
MV: Final question. What are
you working on now? Any projects that we can look forward to in the near
future?
KS: I am working towards a
few group shows that I will be participating in over the coming year. (I will
have a painting at Petzel Gallery in NY opening September 8th and
two at kaufmann repetto). I am also working on my second solo
show at Sadie Coles HQ opening in London some time next spring.